O'Connor blasts DeLay on judge threats

[splib]

O'Connor blasts DeLay on judge threats
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism...3-110413-6034r

WASHINGTON, March 13 (UPI) -- Former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has lashed out at GOP right wingers who attack the judiciary.

O'Connor was nominated by conservative icon President Ronald Reagan and was the first woman ever to sit on the Supreme Court. In a powerful speech at Georgetown University Thursday, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, she warned that the United States was in danger of drifting towards dictatorship because of the attacks.

O'Connor, who retired only last month after 24 years on the Supreme Court, said repeated attacks on judges for alleged liberal bias could boost an atmosphere of violence against judges. "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary," she said. "...It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."

In her address to an audience of corporate lawyers on Thursday, O'Connor focused on former House Majority leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, for his comments during the Terry Schiavo "right to die" case last year, The Guardian newspaper in London reported.

After the decision last March that ordered Schiavo removed from life support, DeLay said: "The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior." He later called for the impeachment of judges involved in the Schiavo case, and called for more scrutiny of "an arrogant, out-of-control, unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at Congress and the president."

Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom," and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up."

[sinecure]

Well.... she has to say SOMETHING to earn her $50,000.00"honorarium", doesn't she?

[w1che]

No one should attack the judiciary, they're Gods. No wait, let me think about this, hmmmmm, well, I think they are just another equal branch of government!!

[DEAD ZONE]

When they pull this kind of scare garbage , they know they have been caught. Politicians and public figures always get threats , INTERNET postings about threats and so on.Yes the number fluctuates with varied factors so just because the number is up today hardly proves the end to democracy.Besides, the more you deliberately admit you ignore the constitution and foundation of this republic the more threats you are likely to have received !!!!!!!!

I guess Ginsburg's own colleagues on the court who disagree with her are this dictatorial life threat as well?????Its just another example of projection by a leftists judge who believes they are untouchable and infallible.They believe the Black robes make them above the constitution and the people.Just remember when these foreign law citing traitors talk about judicial independence, dictatorships ,and safety what they really mean is no one should be able to criticize them and point out their blatant disregard for the founders spoken intent and the plane language of the constitution.

[Ateo]

Originally Posted by DEAD ZONE

Hate judges that aren't libertarifacist ARRGH ARRGH only right wing judges should be allowed on bench! GRR!! hate hate grrr!

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[RubberDucky]

Originally Posted by sinecure

Well.... she has to say SOMETHING to earn her $50,000.00"honorarium", doesn't she?

Nice way to side-step the issue sin.

[sinecure]

Originally Posted by RubberDucky

Nice way to side-step the issue sin.

Nice way to miss the whole point.

There is no "issue" here except the one she's manufactured.

"Remain scared... there is no reason to be calm."

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

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say it with me;
P.R.O.J.E.C.T.I.O.N.

Its not rocket science my little treasonous friend.

Show me where the foundders ever siad that we should look to foreighn law over the constitution??????????

Show me where the founders ever said that we should look to foreign law over the constitution??????????

You do know what the constitution is.....don't you?

apparently not. Here, go read it first;
http://boortz.com/more/us_constitution.html

Or will you once again simply say its at a right wing site so it is worthless??

Seems the constitution is the "rightwing" thing you hate so much

Main Entry: pro·jec·tion
Pronunciation: pr&-'jek-sh&n
Function: noun

the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety.

[Ateo]

Let's play a game, DZ. Let's say extremist liberal groups like ELF or PETA start a PR campaign where they begin claiming that conservative judges are a danger to the physical safety of all Americans. Far-left liberals go crazy blogging about the evil rightwing judges day after day, working all the extremist lefties into a froth. Then, conservative judges begin recieving death threats, and many have to hire extra security to protect themselves. Many also feel intimidated.

I guess you'd have no problem with that at all, would you? Naaah. You wouldn't be screaming to high heaven, in capital letters and multiple exclamation points, about those craaaazy liberals and how they need to be stopped. Nah.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

Let's play a game, DZ. Let's say extremist liberal groups like ELF or PETA start a PR campaign where they begin claiming that conservative judges are a danger to the physical safety of all Americans. Far-left liberals go crazy blogging about the evil rightwing judges day after day, working all the extremist lefties into a froth. Then, conservative judges begin recieving death threats, and many have to hire extra security to protect themselves. Many also feel intimidated.

I guess you'd have no problem with that at all, would you? Naaah. You wouldn't be screaming to high heaven, in capital letters and multiple exclamation points, about those craaaazy liberals and how they need to be stopped. Nah.

You start play right off by starting out stacking the deck.
By the way, what rock have YOu been undr. They have been doing that for years.Democratic underground ring a bell?

It has nothing to do with what left or right says. It only has to do with what the constitution says and the intent of the founders WHICH they made more than clear.

Play games if you like but KEEP YOUR REVISIONIST LIVING ROTE DOCTRINE HANDS OFF MY RIGHTS and the republic!!!!!!

[Ateo]

Do you feel the Bush admin has violated the Constitution DZ?

[sinecure]

Makes you wonder why anyone would want to become a judge, huh?

I mean... all those death threats and stuff...

Judges being "taken out" with monotonous regularity....

....when WAS the last time that happened, anyway?...

Honestly, the only case that comes to mind is this one from 1970:

http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/03/0...-shooting.html

...and Angela was hardly a "neo-con", was she?

Undoubtedly, you Googlemiesters will find some more... Let's try to keep a running talley of whether their killers were Libs or Cons.

[w1che]

I would think Bush is more importent to the country than one federal judge & you libs attack him every day. What's the difference?

[splib]

Terry Schiavo, the turning point. Keeping it in the news is a smart thing to do.
The case was the first step that divided the republicans, seperated and isolated the radicals from the masses, putting republican politicians including the Bush's in the far right court, exposing their radical bellies, on the road to their demise.

Jeb Bush took his brother out with one stupid suggestion, and again manipulated the courts and legislature to do their bidding, only this time it failed. The case for life was not logical, and in the end, logic prevailed.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

Do you feel the Bush admin has violated the Constitution DZ?

100% absolutley.
The repubs have, the dems have. I have said it before and will again. The only diff between the repubs and dems is who they want to steal the money from and who they want to give it to. The repubs do tend to leave their hands off my rights more but its so slightly more its hardly worth mentioning.

Bush is notorious for his "protest zones". He strikes me as not taking kindly or tolerantly to direct criticism unless he has fore knowledge of it so he can prepare for it.

They have violated it tig but its usually NOT where you claim they have.

[Ateo]

Originally Posted by DEAD ZONE

100% absolutley.
The repubs have, the dems have. I have said it before and will again. The only diff between the repubs and dems is who they want to steal the money from and who they want to give it to. The repubs do tend to leave their hands off my rights more but its so slightly more its hardly worth mentioning.

Well at least there's some semblance of consistency in your argument.

But...do you really, honestly think, that if Gore had won in 2000, he would have invaded Iraq, started a secret program of spying on Americans, created those "protest zones", set up Guantanamo like Bush did, etc etc? I strongly disagree with your "they're all the same" argument. Democrats have their faults, but no one--not even another Republican--could create as disasterous an administration as Bush has created. He truly has set a new low for presidencies.

Back to topic... disagree with the justices, yes. Don't threaten them. Don't incite others to threaten them. It's stupid and unAmerican. be a grown up. There are others ways to deal with it.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

Well at least there's some semblance of consistency in your argument.

But...do you really, honestly think, that if Gore had won in 2000, he would have invaded Iraq, started a secret program of spying on Americans, created those "protest zones", set up Guantanamo like Bush did, etc etc?

yes especially since Bush is not the first to do such. Gore would would do nothing but throw spit wads just like his boss did.

I strongly disagree with your "they're all the same" argument. Democrats have their faults, but no one--not even another Republican--could create as disastrous an administration as Bush has created. He truly has set a new low for presidencies.

Oh please. yes they can and they have. LBJ and his war on poverty has left a legacy of despair and robbery by the fed that makes Bush look like a boy scout and he is just one example.

Back to topic... disagree with the justices, yes. Don't threaten them. Don't incite others to threaten them. It's stupid and unAmerican. be a grown up. There are others ways to deal with it.

The congress and press are spineless jelly fish. If they did their job we would not even be having this conversation.


Bush is a disaster beyond others in the area of spending. he has not ever met a spending bill he did not like. He makes the dems look like misers in comparison.

[Ateo]

So DZ, you're of those "Bush might be horribly bad, but everyone is horribly bad, therefore, relatively speaking, in comparison, Bush is OK" people?

I think there are Dems and Repubs in congress who do have a backbone, they just don't have the power to exercize it because the place is run by Republican corporatists and Bush sycophants whose primary agenda is retaining power at the expense of everything, including the economic well-being of the country. So it's not Repubs and Dems--the great "equalization argument"--causing the problem. It's Repubs, bad Repubs, the Repubs running things that are the problem. We need to boot them all out, including Bush and the horse he rode in on, and put in some good people who aren't on the corporate lobbyists', and religious right's, leash.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ate

So DZ, you're of those "Bush might be horribly bad, but everyone is horribly bad, therefore, relatively speaking, in comparison, Bush is OK" people?

No.
from you that means because YOU see him as ultimate evil all must or they love him.
2 year old thinking tig as usual.

I think there are Dems and Repubs in congress who do have a backbone, they just don't have the power to exercise it because the place is run by Republican corporatists and Bush sycophants whose primary agenda is retaining power at the expense of everything, including the economic well-being of the country. So it's not Repubs and Dems--the great "equalization argument"--causing the problem. It's Repubs, bad Repubs, the Repubs running things that are the problem. We need to boot them all out, including Bush and the horse he rode in on, and put in some good people who aren't on the corporate lobbyists', and religious right's, leash.

Ron Paul dose. I like him and as you know he is hardly a pro Bush repub. so you can cut the labeling and demonetization crap. thats exactly the kind of politician move we real anti lobbyist anti corpratis religious tolerant types despise.
We could boot the bad repubs if you and the radical nut leftist would not keep putting up lunatic leftist like kerry and kenedy.
The dems had the white house handed to them in 2004 but they tried to force another leftist radical nut on us thinking we had no choice.

Until you dems rid your party of that old tactic you will never achieve the goals you claim you want so badly.

[Ateo]

So what, exactly, specifically, made Kerry a radical nut?

[w1che]

Tig has lost.. It's time for death from a thousands questions...

[sinecure]

Originally Posted by Ateo

So what, exactly, specifically, made Kerry a radical nut?

Ummmm.... try to keep-up here, Tig.

...or at least pay attention. We've been listing the reasons ever since Ketchup Man first had made his Presidential aspirations public.

Let me give you one to set you and Wh00lie off: He holds himself out as an "ecologist", concerned with the world and where it's headed in the liberal-imagined handbasket...

Yet he has 5 kids....

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

So what, exactly, specifically, made Kerry a radical nut?

[Ateo]

Over the last 3 days, all you guys can give me as evidence that Kerry is a "radical nut" is that...he cares about the planet and has five children.

Wow. He is a WILD AND CRAZY GUY!

[Idnew]

We need to boot them all out,

I'm for that. We do that locally when someone has been in office too long and then tend to ignore the ones that elected them. Fresh blood is good for a few years anyway. I don't think the Supreme Court Justices should be in there for life either.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

Over the last 3 days, all you guys can give me as evidence that Kerry is a "radical nut" is that...he cares about the planet and has five children.

Wow. He is a WILD AND CRAZY GUY!

We gave you a ton during the election tig. all you did was say it was lies and not radical; repeatedly you claimed he was main stream but clearly he was not because he is not in the white house and that idiot bush is. he lost to the biggest duffus,moron and most "radical;" unelectable idiot {according to you} so Kerry must in fact be as radical and out of touch as we say Just on your own condemnations of Bush alone.YOU ARE OUR BEST EVIDENCE. we pummeled you with fact after documented fact so go cry on your own time and beat your chest if it makes you feel better.

[Ateo]

Originally Posted by DEAD ZONE

We gave you a ton during the election tig.

HE FAKED HIS INJURIES IN NAM, HE LIED ON THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS, HE'S A COMMIE, SMEAR, LIES, SLANDER, ETC ETC ETC

yeah I remember

You criticize him for not being able to beat Bush, yet you agreed with all the slander and lies and pushed it yourself. You're a boring hack.

[sinecure]

Originally Posted by Ateo

HE FAKED HIS INJURIES IN NAM, HE LIED ON THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS, HE'S A COMMIE, SMEAR, LIES, SLANDER, ETC ETC ETC

yeah I remember

You criticize him for not being able to beat Bush, yet you agreed with all the slander and lies and pushed it yourself. You're a boring hack.

The term generally applied here, Tig is "self-evident". Kerry didn't have the support you thought he ought to have....and he lost.

Therefore it is self-evident that the majority of voters didn't agree with you.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally Posted by Ateo

HE FAKED HIS INJURIES IN NAM, HE LIED ON THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS, HE'S A COMMIE, SMEAR, LIES, SLANDER, ETC ETC ETC

yeah I remember

You criticize him for not being able to beat Bush, yet you agreed with all the slander and lies and pushed it yourself. You're a boring hack.

I am using Your own arguments tig.learn to read and you can avoid straw-man arguments better. I did not vote for either so get the basics of the argument right. You supported kerry. I supported Neither one.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

[Ateo]

Originally Posted by DEAD ZONE

You supported kerry. I supported Neither one.

Yeah, you just can't lose with that position! You're just a genius, DZ.

You spent 99% of your time bashing Kerry via Swiftboat Liars' propaganda...yet you have always supported Bush's biggest policy failures...but you don't take sides.

Your transparent hackery just isn't worth commenting on anymore DZ.